frank plasberg had loaded. Peter Altmaier, Gesine Schwan, Herfried Münkler, Austria Interior Minister Wolfgang Sobotka came, and as icing on the “I”: AFD politician Guido Reil. A powerful mix. With the potential, belonging to pop, if you set only the match to the fuse. The fuse, this was the topic: Has Angela Merkel made in the refugee crisis a mistake that belongs corrected? The match however, led frank plasberg. But first the fuse began slowly to burn.
“I do not think the problem was to keep the borders open. The fault lies in the fact that they had no strategy before and after, as refugees listed should come to Europe. ” SPD politician Gesine Schwan should “Hart aber fair” show not be tired during the to Chancellor Merkel to consider the CDU again with this allegation. Merkel, the President of the European University Viadrina, acted properly in the matter, but without a clear idea of how it should go. A divided society wanted Swan in Germany, however, does not see “80 percent according to studies that refugees be taken.”
historian Herfried Münkler was not so sure at this point. He turned swan argument to summarily. “I suppose that it was to realize that perhaps Europe saves, but a huge problem gets with parts of the electorate,” he commented on the decision to keep the borders open.
frank plasberg, here again quite the skillful discussion leader, he may be in his better moments, headed Münkler statement directly chancellery minister Peter Altmaier (CDU) continues:” Was it really so? ” The put the situation from the perspective of a participant represents. “There had resulted a dramatic escalation. The limits were the way open, we did not put up.” There were moments, according to the minister, in which one must decide to help. Haphazard one was not.
must carry out the policy change course?
Of course, the program had the electoral success pick the “alternative for Germany” in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Herfried Münkler was one aspect took up here who had found in connection with the election already in the social networks spread. “It is interesting that just come 27,000 refugees to 1.6 million people here.” The resentment towards immigrants, which drove many people to the polls and in the arms of the AFD, is less real than felt experience, as the political scientist. However, the slogan “We can do it” is not obsolete even after this election result.
However, instead of “If we say we can not do it, then nothing is for solving the problem done. Then resignation is spreading.” Only to talk about the voters of the AFD, Plasberg wanted here include the Job skills: AFD politician Reil. The outraged about the alleged inaction of the policy: “The entire responsibility for the refugees lies with the municipalities Mrs Merkel says nothing more than we can..” But why he sees the solution calculated in the AfD and not in the SPD, where he had long been a member, Plasberg asked then: “Nowhere was me some hearing gives,” says Reil complained to answer about his old party. “The reality is denied. Multiculturalism does not work in a working class neighborhood in Essen. I grew up there.”
that it certainly is a contradiction to say that “multiculturalism” does not work, when you’re married to a Russian and a few sentences later it tells that one is always on good terms with the Turkish colleagues on their ex-comrades Reil finally came Gesine Schwan, “But it has nevertheless works”
The turn defended himself by saying that the Turks had changed and collectively Erdogan glorified, a circumstance which makes him angry. But here swan had the appropriate counter hand: “One can but these Turks not simply reverse the polarity, which is not in a complex society.” We must talk to the other side, rather than simply reject by select AFD. Also Altmaier voted the SPD politician on this point: “I think Mr Reil’s decision is wrong, the AFD has solved a single problem, is a party that thrives on the protest…”
” The one can no longer transform “
The fuse, she was burned at that time a good deal. Even more had the next question from moderator Plasberg to Reil as an accelerant. “Is what you’re doing, not just the greatest protest?” Reil responded accordingly irritably: “I remain Sozi I think I can make a difference in the AFD..” Then AfD politicians came to operating temperature. The foreigners would get the big “all-round carefree package”, the refugees came from the frauenfeindlichsten, violent and homophobesten part of the world, he got excited. The fact that many refugees flee precisely from these things, he forgot to mention apparently.
But not enough. In the next breath, the ex-SPD man to allegations that would have to be roll up each toenails went so. “Men are finished embossed with 18 years. This may give you any sociologist explain” blustered the politicians. “Those who come here, you can not transform.” The consequences are clear: “Sexual assault, which it has not previously given everything.” To recognize that such claims are complete nonsense, it is enough to look at the crime statistics. However, in order to let the powder keg go up that evening, they were ideal.
While Peter Altmaier angry “This is pure propaganda!” between cried, Gesine Schwan shot with another comparison against. The greatest number of sexual assaults happening in German families, the SPD politician. Reil explained this claim in return for nonsense: “That’s a completely different reality.” To round shut the thing finally also frank plasberg intervened with a picture of the Cologne New Year’s Eve. His accusation: Swan operate with their knee-jerk sets campaign help, assaults by migrants as in Cologne should not belittle you.
voice of reason in chaos: the scientists. “There were nine deaths in 2015, which are due to refugees, calculated on one million refugees”, Münkler said with reference to the supposedly criminal refugees. Nine per million gives 0.0009 per cent. Even the statistically unshod layman it here: This is pretty little. How few however are interested in such figures demonstrated precisely the Austrian Interior Minister Sobotka: “My Statistics says 80 percent of people do not believe that.” The policy, the ÖVP politicians must respond to the concerns and fears of the people. Worries and fears, emotions rather than rational considerations, that seems to be the only binding guideline in politics for many.
What next?
the question remained how to proceed. For Altmaier the answer was clear: “I believe that Europe has to prove himself in solidarity in the refugee crisis.” Cooperation is more necessary than ever, a point in which it also agreed to Sobotka. The fact that currently do not get ahead in the distribution issue, it does not astonish. During his time as minister he had seen how Germany and Austria had braced with a vengeance against the admission of refugees. It remained hard, while countries such as Italy and Malta have begged that we would help them. The current Retourkutsche so Altmaier, was there no wonder.
Gesine Schwan came to such frank words not help but to praise the CDU-man. However, in case she was adamant: “The Union needs money in hand next and provide incentives.” Refugee and development policies in their own country would have to be seen together. “Then, you will succeed to reach people like Mr. Reil.”
Herfried Münkler was yet again back to the question whether Merkel’s decision thoughtlessly been be. The luxury of the survey of all the facts you have not had time. “I believe that the government has acted quite rationally,” stated the scientists and raised the question of an alternative to. The it did not actually given. “It would probably have to rub the entire Balkan stabilization policy of recent years in the hair and Greece also.” Merkel’s action was by no means irrational. The hook: “You should have explained more.” So the debate has been determined from the right edge.
At the end of the show was silence
Peter Altmaier used the opportunity then, one last time to defend his government’s decision. In a tone of an unusual amount of pathos for the otherwise so sober Minister included: “to be able to govern a country is a great honor that we owe to the people who elected us.” At these people it was necessary to think in political decisions. One thing is crucial – from time to time one must also even keep your back straight and make decisions that are right for the country, although some citizens did not agree to this
For a program that had existed in large parts of excited and loud discussion, should” but “this time thanks to a single end Photos fair entirely unfamiliar: in complete silence. was shown the image of the dead Alan Kurdi. “Would one say what?” Asked moderator Plasberg with the tone of a stern schoolmaster, but in view of the dead child the round remained silent. Perhaps it was the erhellendste moment of the whole consignment.
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